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Cependant je ne suis pas convaincu que rouler avec des remorques sur nos routes de montagne soit forc\u00e9ment une bonne solution, parce que les cars vont beaucoup sur les routes de montagne. Est-ce que vous \u00eates s\u00fbre que tous les cars \u00e9trangers - qui sont vraiment les bienvenus en Suisse - respectent cette limite de 18 tonnes?</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20120605","MeetingVerbalixOid":2192,"IdSession":"4904","SpeakerFirstName":"Jean-Fran\u00e7ois","SpeakerLastName":"Rime","SpeakerFullName":"Rime Jean-Fran\u00e7ois","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Consiglio nazionale","CantonId":10,"CantonName":"Friburgo","CantonAbbreviation":"FR","ParlGroupName":"Gruppo dell'Unione democratica di Centro","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"V","SortOrder":4,"Start":"\/Date(1338898834873)\/","End":"\/Date(1338898859625)\/","Function":"Mit-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877632272)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1338898834873+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1338898859627+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125060L,Language='IT')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125060L,Language='IT')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125060L,Language='IT')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125060L,Language='IT')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125060L,Language='IT')/Businesses"}},"ID":"125060","Language":"IT","IdSubject":"20304","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":488,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Der Bundesrat beantragt Ihnen die Ablehnung dieser Motion, und zwar vor allem aus [PAGE 940] Praktikabilit\u00e4tsgr\u00fcnden. Entgegen der Argumentation des Motion\u00e4rs ist es n\u00e4mlich nicht problemlos m\u00f6glich, das Gesamtgewicht von 18 auf 19 Tonnen zu erh\u00f6hen, ohne die maximal zul\u00e4ssige Achslast von 11,5 Tonnen auf der Antriebsachse zu \u00fcberschreiten. Die Einhaltung dieser Achslastlimite ist oft nicht einfach, da die Belastung der Achsen von Fahrt zu Fahrt sehr unterschiedlich sein kann, je nachdem, wie viele Passagiere in einem solchen Car im Bereich der Antriebsachse sitzen und wie das Gep\u00e4ck im Gep\u00e4ckraum verteilt ist. Im Ergebnis bedeutet eine Erh\u00f6hung des Gesamtgewichts des Fahrzeugs um eine Tonne, dass solche Fahrzeuge sehr oft die geltenden Vorschriften bez\u00fcglich Achslast auf der Antriebsachse verletzen w\u00fcrden. Wenn wir hier den Carunternehmen entgegenkommen m\u00f6chten, m\u00fcssten wir zudem wahrscheinlich auch dieselbe Regelung f\u00fcr Lastwagen treffen, da diese Kategorien sich wohl nicht mit guten Gr\u00fcnden unterschiedlich behandeln liessen. </p>\n<p>Wir meinen auch, dass in der Praxis diese Problematik doch nur vereinzelt auftaucht, weil dort, wo besonders hohe Anforderungen an die Ladekapazit\u00e4t oder den Komfort von Cars gestellt werden, dreiachsige Cars mit einem zul\u00e4ssigen Gesamtgewicht bis 26 Tonnen zur Verf\u00fcgung stehen. Man kann nat\u00fcrlich auch eine Optimierung erreichen, indem man an ein Fahrzeug bis 18 Tonnen einen Gep\u00e4ckanh\u00e4nger anh\u00e4ngt; dann ist n\u00e4mlich die Problematik mit der Gewichtslimite in der Regel gel\u00f6st.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20120605","MeetingVerbalixOid":2192,"IdSession":"4904","SpeakerFirstName":"Doris","SpeakerLastName":"Leuthard","SpeakerFullName":"Leuthard Doris","SpeakerFunction":"BR-F","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Consiglio federale","CantonId":19,"CantonName":"Argovia","CantonAbbreviation":"AG","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":3,"Start":"\/Date(1338898707642)\/","End":"\/Date(1338898834873)\/","Function":"BR-F","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1774877632270)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1338898707643+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1338898834873+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125061L,Language='IT')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125061L,Language='IT')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125061L,Language='IT')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125061L,Language='IT')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125061L,Language='IT')/Businesses"}},"ID":"125061","Language":"IT","IdSubject":"20304","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":1119,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>La motion de notre ancien coll\u00e8gue Simon Schenk pr\u00e9voit que le poids total des autocars \u00e0 deux essieux passe de 18 \u00e0 19 tonnes. En effet, depuis plusieurs d\u00e9cennies, le poids effectif d'un autocar \u00e0 deux essieux est limit\u00e9 \u00e0 18 tonnes. Or, la liste des contraintes auxquelles les v\u00e9hicules doivent satisfaire n'a cess\u00e9 de s'allonger. Les exigences environnementales - normes d'\u00e9missions Euro 1 \u00e0 5, mesures de r\u00e9duction du bruit -, les exigences en mati\u00e8re de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 - construction du ch\u00e2ssis, ceintures de s\u00e9curit\u00e9, syst\u00e8me de freinage -, mais aussi les dispositifs de confort - toilettes, cuisine, appareillage multim\u00e9dia - ont continuellement fait augmenter le poids des v\u00e9hicules. De plus, la longueur autoris\u00e9e des v\u00e9hicules est pass\u00e9e de 12 \u00e0 13,5 m\u00e8tres au 1er d\u00e9cembre 2002. A cela s'ajoute enfin que les passagers sont en moyenne plus lourds que par le pass\u00e9 et qu'ils tendent \u00e0 emporter davantage de bagages. Il en a r\u00e9sult\u00e9 une diminution de la charge utile disponible pour les passagers et leurs bagages, ce qui est absurde du point de vue \u00e9conomique et \u00e9cologique. Le poids \u00e0 vide de la majorit\u00e9 des autocars \u00e0 deux essieux est aujourd'hui de 13 tonnes, voire davantage. Comme la charge utile restante de 5 tonnes est insuffisante compte tenu du poids des passagers et de leurs bagages, de nombreux Etats europ\u00e9ens ont relev\u00e9 le poids effectif autoris\u00e9 \u00e0 19, voire jusqu'\u00e0 21,5 tonnes. Il n'y a donc aucun conflit avec le droit europ\u00e9en. On peut d'ailleurs se demander aussi si les nombreux autocars qui viennent encore heureusement dans notre pays, malgr\u00e9 le franc fort, sont bien contr\u00f4l\u00e9s et respectent ces 18 tonnes.</p>\n<p>L'augmentation du poids effectif autoris\u00e9 est techniquement possible. Madame la conseill\u00e8re f\u00e9d\u00e9rale, vous me r\u00e9pondrez sans doute que l'on aura une mauvaise r\u00e9partition des charges et que la charge \u00e0 l'essieu ne sera pas respect\u00e9e. C'est faux; d'apr\u00e8s les sp\u00e9cialistes, il est aujourd'hui tout \u00e0 fait possible d'augmenter ce poids tout en respectant la charge \u00e0 l'essieu et en respectant donc notre r\u00e9seau routier, y compris dans les montagnes.</p>\n<p>Je rappellerai encore que le transport par autocar est un transport respectueux de l'environnement et qu'il profite bien s\u00fbr principalement aux personnes \u00e2g\u00e9es qui sont peut-\u00eatre en difficult\u00e9 pour voyager seules en avion et surtout qui, gr\u00e2ce au transport par autocar, ont des conditions, notamment de s\u00e9curit\u00e9, bien meilleures.</p>\n<p>Je vous demande de soutenir la motion Schenk Simon. Je crois qu'elle n'est en contradiction ni avec vos convictions \u00e9cologiques, ni avec vos convictions politiques.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20120605","MeetingVerbalixOid":2192,"IdSession":"4904","SpeakerFirstName":"Jean-Fran\u00e7ois","SpeakerLastName":"Rime","SpeakerFullName":"Rime Jean-Fran\u00e7ois","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Consiglio nazionale","CantonId":10,"CantonName":"Friburgo","CantonAbbreviation":"FR","ParlGroupName":"Gruppo dell'Unione democratica di Centro","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"V","SortOrder":2,"Start":"\/Date(1338898530228)\/","End":"\/Date(1338898707642)\/","Function":"Mit-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877632269)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1338898530227+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1338898707643+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125062L,Language='IT')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125062L,Language='IT')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125062L,Language='IT')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125062L,Language='IT')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=125062L,Language='IT')/Businesses"}},"ID":"125062","Language":"IT","IdSubject":"20304","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":519,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p><b>Pr\u00e4sident </b>(Walter Hansj\u00f6rg, Pr\u00e4sident): Die Motion Schenk Simon wurde von Herrn Rime \u00fcbernommen.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20120605","MeetingVerbalixOid":2192,"IdSession":"4904","SpeakerFirstName":"Hansj\u00f6rg","SpeakerLastName":"Walter","SpeakerFullName":"Walter Hansj\u00f6rg","SpeakerFunction":"P-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Consiglio nazionale","CantonId":20,"CantonName":"Turgovia","CantonAbbreviation":"TG","ParlGroupName":"Gruppo dell'Unione democratica di Centro","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"V","SortOrder":1,"Start":"\/Date(1338898520077)\/","End":"\/Date(1338898530228)\/","Function":"P-M","DisplaySpeaker":false,"LanguageOfText":null,"Modified":"\/Date(1774877632267)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1338898520077+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1338898530227+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null}]},"ID":"20304","Language":"IT","IdMeeting":"1389","VerbalixOid":382616,"SortOrder":5,"Modified":"\/Date(1774877632266)\/"}}