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Ma question porte sur la d\u00e9claration publique de Monsieur Barthassat du 25 ao\u00fbt dernier, qui est parue dans un journal genevois, selon laquelle vous auriez accord\u00e9 la garantie du financement de ce fameux pont de la travers\u00e9e du lac. 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Alors, peut-on dire aujourd'hui que Monsieur Barthassat a pris quelques libert\u00e9s par rapport \u00e0 la v\u00e9rit\u00e9?</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20140915","MeetingVerbalixOid":2504,"IdSession":"4915","SpeakerFirstName":"C\u00e9line","SpeakerLastName":"Amaudruz","SpeakerFullName":"Amaudruz C\u00e9line","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-F","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Nationalrat","CantonId":25,"CantonName":"Genf","CantonAbbreviation":"GE","ParlGroupName":"Fraktion der Schweizerischen Volkspartei","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"V","SortOrder":4,"Start":"\/Date(1410792773542)\/","End":"\/Date(1410792800303)\/","Function":"Mit-F","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877485358)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1410792773543+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1410792800303+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157987L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157987L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157987L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157987L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157987L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"157987","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"27567","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":488,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>La Conf\u00e9d\u00e9ration ne se m\u00eale pas aux discussions cantonales.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20140915","MeetingVerbalixOid":2504,"IdSession":"4915","SpeakerFirstName":"Doris","SpeakerLastName":"Leuthard","SpeakerFullName":"Leuthard Doris","SpeakerFunction":"BR-F","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Bundesrat","CantonId":19,"CantonName":"Aargau","CantonAbbreviation":"AG","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":3,"Start":"\/Date(1410792761293)\/","End":"\/Date(1410792773542)\/","Function":"BR-F","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877485356)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1410792761293+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1410792773543+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157988L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157988L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157988L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157988L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157988L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"157988","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"27567","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":3898,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Je vous remercie, Madame la conseill\u00e8re f\u00e9d\u00e9rale, pour ces d\u00e9tails et ces pr\u00e9cisions. Ma question est la suivante: sur l'\u00e9chelle de Pinocchio, qui compte dix degr\u00e9s, \u00e0 combien \u00e9valuez-vous la longueur du nez de Monsieur le conseiller d'Etat Luc Barthassat, qui a promis aux Genevois que vous vous \u00e9tiez engag\u00e9e pour une construction qui commencerait en 2025?</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20140915","MeetingVerbalixOid":2504,"IdSession":"4915","SpeakerFirstName":"Yves","SpeakerLastName":"Nidegger","SpeakerFullName":"Nidegger Yves","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Nationalrat","CantonId":25,"CantonName":"Genf","CantonAbbreviation":"GE","ParlGroupName":"Fraktion der Schweizerischen Volkspartei","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"V","SortOrder":2,"Start":"\/Date(1410792737229)\/","End":"\/Date(1410792761293)\/","Function":"Mit-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877485354)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1410792737230+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1410792761293+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157989L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157989L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157989L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157989L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=157989L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"157989","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"27567","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":488,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral ne peut pas s'engager aujourd'hui sur le financement de la travers\u00e9e du lac \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve.</p>\n<p>Dans le message relatif \u00e0 l'arr\u00eat\u00e9 f\u00e9d\u00e9ral concernant l'allocation des moyens financiers n\u00e9cessaires pour la deuxi\u00e8me p\u00e9riode du programme d'\u00e9limination des goulets d'\u00e9tranglement du r\u00e9seau des routes nationales du 26 f\u00e9vrier 2014, le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral s'est prononc\u00e9 sur les mesures permettant d'\u00e9liminer les goulets d'\u00e9tranglement sur l'autoroute de contournement de Gen\u00e8ve. Il a notamment constat\u00e9 que la travers\u00e9e du lac ne contribuerait \u00e0 \u00e9liminer les goulets d'\u00e9tranglement que sur le tron\u00e7on sud-ouest de l'actuelle autoroute de contournement. Il a en cons\u00e9quence d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de dissocier la d\u00e9cision concernant la travers\u00e9e du lac \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve de celle concernant l'\u00e9limination des goulets d'\u00e9tranglement dans ce secteur. La d\u00e9cision d'int\u00e9grer la travers\u00e9e du lac dans le r\u00e9seau des routes nationales ne pourra \u00eatre prise qu'apr\u00e8s la r\u00e9alisation d'analyses compl\u00e9mentaires relatives au d\u00e9veloppement territorial. Il serait pr\u00e9matur\u00e9 et injustifi\u00e9 vis-\u00e0-vis de l'objectif d'\u00e9limination des goulets d'\u00e9tranglement d'int\u00e9grer d\u00e8s maintenant la travers\u00e9e du lac \u00e0 Gen\u00e8ve dans l'arr\u00eat\u00e9 f\u00e9d\u00e9ral sur le r\u00e9seau des routes nationales.</p>\n<p>Puisqu'il s'agit d'une infrastructure nationale, une route nationale, la Conf\u00e9d\u00e9ration en assume l'entier des co\u00fbts. 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