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L'intention d'am\u00e9liorer les conditions-cadres est tout \u00e0 fait compr\u00e9hensible et louable. N\u00e9anmoins, il n'est ni judicieux ni n\u00e9cessaire de cr\u00e9er des base l\u00e9gales sp\u00e9cifiques pour l'acquisition de places de tir ou d'exercice de l'arm\u00e9e inutilis\u00e9es. Les organisations de jeunesse agissent bien dans l'int\u00e9r\u00eat public, mais il faut relever que bien d'autres utilisateurs, comme par exemple les organisations sportives, le font \u00e9galement. Privil\u00e9gier une cat\u00e9gorie d'organisations va \u00e0 l'encontre du principe de l'\u00e9galit\u00e9 de traitement et ne semble gu\u00e8re justifiable. En plus, il serait extr\u00eamement d\u00e9licat de pr\u00e9voir des exceptions dans les diff\u00e9rentes lois concern\u00e9es afin de privil\u00e9gier une cat\u00e9gorie particuli\u00e8re. Des exceptions pourraient \u00eatre demand\u00e9es pour d'autres utilisations, par exemple pour des aires de s\u00e9jour destin\u00e9es aux gens du voyage. Le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral estime qu'en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral des solutions peuvent \u00eatre trouv\u00e9es, sous le r\u00e9gime actuel, moyennant l'accord du propri\u00e9taire concern\u00e9.</p>\n<p>En ce qui concerne les anciennes places de tir ou d'exercice qui ne sont en grande partie pas propri\u00e9t\u00e9 de la Conf\u00e9d\u00e9ration, je crois qu'il faut que je vous donne des chiffres: il y a environ 700 places de tir qui doivent \u00eatre liquid\u00e9es mais seulement 5 pour cent d'entre elles, c'est-\u00e0-dire 35, sont propri\u00e9t\u00e9 de la Conf\u00e9d\u00e9ration. Ces places doivent aussi \u00eatre assainies et rendues aux propri\u00e9taires selon les contrats initialement conclus. Le DDPS est pr\u00eat \u00e0 mettre ses 35 anciennes places de tir ou d'exercice \u00e0 disposition d'organisations de jeunesse si le canton et la commune sont d'accord et sous r\u00e9serve d'autres int\u00e9r\u00eats publics en jeu.</p>\n<p>De ce fait et pour les raisons pr\u00e9cit\u00e9es, le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral vous propose de rejeter la motion.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20160920","MeetingVerbalixOid":2784,"IdSession":"5005","SpeakerFirstName":"Guy","SpeakerLastName":"Parmelin","SpeakerFullName":"Parmelin Guy","SpeakerFunction":"BR-M","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral","CantonId":22,"CantonName":"Vaud","CantonAbbreviation":"VD","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":2,"Start":"\/Date(1474373730502)\/","End":"\/Date(1474373874624)\/","Function":"BR-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877359446)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1474373730503+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1474373874623+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=204076L,Language='FR')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=204076L,Language='FR')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=204076L,Language='FR')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=204076L,Language='FR')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=204076L,Language='FR')/Businesses"}},"ID":"204076","Language":"FR","IdSubject":"38104","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":4096,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Zeltlagerpl\u00e4tze werden immer rarer. Die geeigneten Fl\u00e4chen verschwinden. Die Siedlungsgebiete dehnen sich im ganzen Land immer mehr aus. Diese Entwicklung engt die M\u00f6glichkeiten der Jugendorganisationen wie Pfadi, Jungwacht, Blauring, Cevi mehr und mehr ein. Ein wichtiger Pfeiler im Vereinsleben dieser Jugendorganisationen ist ein ein- oder zweiw\u00f6chiges Zeltlager in der freien Natur. Ich bin sicher, dass es auch in diesem Saal viele gibt, die in solchen Lagern viel Positives erlebt haben. Gerade auch in der heutigen Zeit mit zunehmender Individualisierung werden solche Lager in einer Jugendgemeinschaft immer wichtiger. Ich war selber viele Jahre Pfadfinder und bin jetzt noch aktiv im Stiftungsrat der Schweizerischen Pfadistiftung. [PAGE 1459] Leider haben heute diese Jugendorganisationen immer mehr Schwierigkeiten, Lagerpl\u00e4tze zu finden. Die Schweizerische Pfadistiftung w\u00fcrde solche Pl\u00e4tze kaufen. Der Erwerb scheitert fast immer wegen eines unflexiblen rechtlichen Rahmens.</p>\n<p>Wenn Sie die Stellungnahme des Bundesrates lesen, sehen Sie die wegen geltenden Rechts unflexible Haltung. Es soll nicht einmal m\u00f6glich sein, Schiess- und \u00dcbungspl\u00e4tze, die im Eigentum des VBS sind und nicht mehr gebraucht werden, an eine Jugendorganisation oder deren Stiftung zu verkaufen.</p>\n<p>Es liegt am Parlament, hier den rechtlichen Rahmen flexibler zu gestalten. Die Anspruchsgruppen und der Nutzungszweck sind hier klar bestimmbar. Gezielte rechtliche Anpassungen f\u00fcr Jugendorganisationen m\u00fcssen hier im Parlament vorgenommen werden.</p>\n<p>Ich bitte Sie, meiner Motion zuzustimmen. </p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20160920","MeetingVerbalixOid":2784,"IdSession":"5005","SpeakerFirstName":"Alois","SpeakerLastName":"Gm\u00fcr","SpeakerFullName":"Gm\u00fcr Alois","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Conseil national","CantonId":5,"CantonName":"Schwyz","CantonAbbreviation":"SZ","ParlGroupName":"Groupe PDC","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"M-E","SortOrder":1,"Start":"\/Date(1474373564319)\/","End":"\/Date(1474373730502)\/","Function":"Mit-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1774877359444)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1474373564320+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1474373730503+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null}]},"ID":"38104","Language":"FR","IdMeeting":"3841","VerbalixOid":504000,"SortOrder":12,"Modified":"\/Date(1774877359443)\/"}}