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Ein Vorschlag zur Schaffung einer einheitlichen Regelung f\u00fcr s\u00e4mtliche Sozialversicherungen soll im Rahmen der ATSG-Revision Anfang des Jahres 2017 in die Vernehmlassung geschickt werden. Am 8. November 2016 hat die SGK-SR ihrerseits beschlossen, eine Kommissionsinitiative f\u00fcr einen Observationsartikel zu starten. Es obliegt danach dem Parlament, \u00fcber das Verfahren zu entscheiden. </p>\n<p>Der EGMR hat entschieden, dass die gesetzlichen Grundlagen f\u00fcr Observationen im Unfallversicherungsgesetz nicht ausreichend sind. F\u00fcr die IV, die sich f\u00fcr solche Massnahmen auf eine gesetzliche Grundlage st\u00fctzen kann, sieht der Bundesrat keinen Grund, von Observationsmassnahmen abzusehen. Der Bundesrat wird im ATSG eine gesetzliche Grundlage vorschlagen, die den Anforderungen der EMRK entspricht. Schliesslich ist eine Observation eine von verschiedenen m\u00f6glichen Massnahmen, Versicherungsmissbrauch aufzudecken. Auch wenn einige Versicherungstr\u00e4ger zurzeit keine gesetzliche Grundlage f\u00fcr Observationen haben, steht ihnen nach wie vor ein breites Instrumentarium zur Bek\u00e4mpfung des Versicherungsmissbrauchs zur Verf\u00fcgung, sodass durch das Urteil des EGMR dem Missbrauch nicht T\u00fcr und Tor ge\u00f6ffnet wurde. </p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20161205","MeetingVerbalixOid":2814,"IdSession":"5006","SpeakerFirstName":"Alain","SpeakerLastName":"Berset","SpeakerFullName":"Berset Alain","SpeakerFunction":"BR-M","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral","CantonId":10,"CantonName":"Fribourg","CantonAbbreviation":"FR","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":1,"Start":"\/Date(1480951673446)\/","End":"\/Date(1480951845078)\/","Function":"BR-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1774877344164)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1480951673447+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1480951845077+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207531L,Language='FR')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207531L,Language='FR')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207531L,Language='FR')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207531L,Language='FR')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207531L,Language='FR')/Businesses"}},"ID":"207531","Language":"FR","IdSubject":"38699","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":514,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p><b>Pr\u00e4sident </b>(Stahl J\u00fcrg, Pr\u00e4sident): Damit beenden wir die Fragestunde. Ihnen, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen, spreche ich ein Kompliment aus: Sie waren anwesend, wenn Sie eine Frage eingereicht hatten, und Sie haben kurze Nachfragen gestellt!</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20161205","MeetingVerbalixOid":2814,"IdSession":"5006","SpeakerFirstName":"J\u00fcrg","SpeakerLastName":"Stahl","SpeakerFullName":"Stahl J\u00fcrg","SpeakerFunction":"P-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Conseil national","CantonId":1,"CantonName":"Zurich","CantonAbbreviation":"ZH","ParlGroupName":"Groupe de l'Union d\u00e9mocratique du Centre","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"V","SortOrder":4,"Start":"\/Date(1480951971894)\/","End":"\/Date(1480951991442)\/","Function":"P-M","DisplaySpeaker":false,"LanguageOfText":null,"Modified":"\/Date(1774877344173)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1480951971893+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1480951991443+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207537L,Language='FR')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207537L,Language='FR')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207537L,Language='FR')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207537L,Language='FR')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207537L,Language='FR')/Businesses"}},"ID":"207537","Language":"FR","IdSubject":"38699","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":4175,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Die Suva hat wenige Tage nach Bekanntwerden dieses Urteils das Aussenden von Versicherungsdetektiven eingestellt. Sind Sie nicht der Meinung, dass dieser Entscheid der Suva etwas sehr fr\u00fch und sehr schnell kam?</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20161205","MeetingVerbalixOid":2814,"IdSession":"5006","SpeakerFirstName":"Mauro","SpeakerLastName":"Tuena","SpeakerFullName":"Tuena Mauro","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Conseil national","CantonId":1,"CantonName":"Zurich","CantonAbbreviation":"ZH","ParlGroupName":"Groupe de l'Union d\u00e9mocratique du Centre","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"V","SortOrder":2,"Start":"\/Date(1480951845078)\/","End":"\/Date(1480951877061)\/","Function":"Mit-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1774877344166)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1480951845077+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1480951877060+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207563L,Language='FR')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207563L,Language='FR')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207563L,Language='FR')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207563L,Language='FR')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=207563L,Language='FR')/Businesses"}},"ID":"207563","Language":"FR","IdSubject":"38699","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":1161,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Merci pour cette question, Monsieur Tuena. Je ne pourrai pas vous donner l'avis du Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral en ce qui concerne pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment la d\u00e9cision de la SUVA. Ce que je peux vous dire, c'est qu'il est d'une grande importance, pour nous, que chaque action de l'Etat ou d'une autorit\u00e9 publique puisse b\u00e9n\u00e9ficier d'une base l\u00e9gale qui soit solide, parce qu'il est question de la protection des droits de la personnalit\u00e9. Ainsi, nous souhaitons poursuivre nos observations; et, d\u00e8s le moment o\u00f9 il appara\u00eetra que la base l\u00e9gale pour ces observations est chancelante, voire manquante, nous nous sommes engag\u00e9s \u00e0 cr\u00e9er ou \u00e0 pr\u00e9ciser aussi rapidement que possible cette base l\u00e9gale, pour qu'il soit possible de poursuivre ces observations.</p>\n<p>Je dois \u00e9galement vous dire qu'il y a beaucoup d'autres mesures qui permettent de garantir une bonne surveillance. Prenons, pour les ann\u00e9es 2011 \u00e0 2015, la vue d'ensemble de la lutte contre les abus, par exemple en ce qui concerne l'assurance-invalidit\u00e9: on se rend compte que les cas qui ont fait l'objet d'une surveillance restent relativement peu nombreux et que les montants dont on parle restent \u00e9galement tout \u00e0 fait acceptables. Par contre, c'est naturellement le r\u00f4le de l'Etat, ind\u00e9pendamment de ces montants et du nombre de cas, d'agir de mani\u00e8re r\u00e9solue et marqu\u00e9e contre les abus, ce que nous avons fait, ce que nous souhaitons poursuivre \u00e0 l'avenir, mais avec une base l\u00e9gale aussi solide que possible.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20161205","MeetingVerbalixOid":2814,"IdSession":"5006","SpeakerFirstName":"Alain","SpeakerLastName":"Berset","SpeakerFullName":"Berset Alain","SpeakerFunction":"BR-M","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral","CantonId":10,"CantonName":"Fribourg","CantonAbbreviation":"FR","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":3,"Start":"\/Date(1480951877061)\/","End":"\/Date(1480951971894)\/","Function":"BR-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877344168)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1480951877060+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1480951971893+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null}]},"ID":"38699","Language":"FR","IdMeeting":"3871","VerbalixOid":509694,"SortOrder":10,"Modified":"\/Date(1774877344159)\/"}}