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Je souhaite rappeler aussi qu'en 2014 nous avons \u00e9t\u00e9 saisis du projet et que, l'\u00e9t\u00e9 dernier, le Conseil national a d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de le renvoyer en raison de l'identifiant AVS et du partenaire priv\u00e9 qui devait traiter le dossier. Cette d\u00e9cision a \u00e9t\u00e9 prise par 146 voix contre 24 et 9 abstentions, et elle n'a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 remise en cause.</p>\n<p>Le Conseil des Etats, par contre, en d\u00e9cembre 2016, a refus\u00e9 de scinder le projet et il est venu \u00e0 notre rencontre en proposant un projet avec un identifiant sectoriel sur la base de l'identifiant AVS. Le 9 mai dernier, la Conf\u00e9rence des directrices et directeurs des d\u00e9partements cantonaux de justice et police a saisi la commission d'une lettre, dans laquelle il \u00e9tait uniquement question de biffer l'article 949d alin\u00e9a 2 au motif que celui-ci \u00e9tait obsol\u00e8te.</p>\n<p>D\u00e8s lors, le 11 mai, la commission s'est ralli\u00e9e \u00e0 cette proposition, qui \u00e9tait d\u00e9fendue \u00e0 la fois par les gouvernements cantonaux, le Conseil national et le Conseil des Etats. Ensuite, nous avons tous re\u00e7u une lettre dat\u00e9e du 29 mai dernier de la Conf\u00e9rence latine des chefs des d\u00e9partements de justice et police, en plus de toutes les autres demandes, ce qui a justifi\u00e9 le d\u00e9p\u00f4t de quatre propositions dans notre conseil.</p>\n<p>Dans les critiques qui sont formul\u00e9es aujourd'hui revient la question du num\u00e9ro d'assur\u00e9 AVS comme identifiant versus un identifiant particulier, et donc celle de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 des [PAGE 842] donn\u00e9es oppos\u00e9e aux \u00e9conomies \u00e0 faire. L'autre sujet qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 abord\u00e9 est celui de la cr\u00e9ation d'une base de donn\u00e9es f\u00e9d\u00e9rale, que les cantons semblent contester, \u00e9tant toutefois pr\u00e9cis\u00e9 que, dans le projet qui \u00e9tait soumis en 2012 d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e0 leur consultation, la cr\u00e9ation de cette base de donn\u00e9es \u00e9tait pr\u00e9vue.</p>\n<p>D\u00e8s lors, vu ces interventions et vu les derniers contacts qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 pris, la commission s'est, comme l'a dit Monsieur Pardini, r\u00e9unie \u00e0 midi. Dans un souci de paix et afin d'\u00e9viter des d\u00e9bats trop longs dans notre conseil, elle accepte aujourd'hui de reprendre l'examen du dossier. 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