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Wir sind einfach der Meinung, dass unsere heutige Gesetzgebung bereits den n\u00f6tigen Spielraum bel\u00e4sst. Ich muss Ihnen nicht das Personenfreiz\u00fcgigkeitsabkommen in Erinnerung rufen. Damit haben wir ja die M\u00f6glichkeit, Menschen in die Schweiz zu holen, die wir f\u00fcr unseren Wirtschaftsplatz ben\u00f6tigen. </p>\n<p>F\u00fcr die Personen aus Drittstaaten haben wir Kontingente. Es ist tats\u00e4chlich so, dass heute der Grossteil der Quoten f\u00fcr die Drittstaatenangeh\u00f6rigen von den internationalen Unternehmen beansprucht wird. Es ist aber im Ermessen der Kantone, wie sie diese Kontingente verteilen. Wir haben ja schliesslich im letzten Jahr die Kontingente f\u00fcr die Arbeitskr\u00e4fte aus Drittstaaten immerhin um 1000 Einheiten erh\u00f6ht, und im Jahr 2018 haben wir sie noch einmal um 500 Einheiten erh\u00f6ht. 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Hier sind die Kantone gefordert, aber hierzu braucht es jetzt keine zus\u00e4tzlichen Abkl\u00e4rungen.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20180315","MeetingVerbalixOid":2993,"IdSession":"5012","SpeakerFirstName":"Simonetta","SpeakerLastName":"Sommaruga","SpeakerFullName":"Sommaruga Simonetta","SpeakerFunction":"BR-F","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Bundesrat","CantonId":2,"CantonName":"Bern","CantonAbbreviation":"BE","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":2,"Start":"\/Date(1521117221758)\/","End":"\/Date(1521117329471)\/","Function":"BR-F","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1774877274720)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1521117221757+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1521117329470+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228518L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228518L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228518L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228518L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228518L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"228518","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"42928","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":1124,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p><b>Le pr\u00e9sident </b>(de Buman Dominique, pr\u00e9sident): Je souhaite un tr\u00e8s joyeux anniversaire \u00e0 notre coll\u00e8gue, Madame Amaudruz. <i>(Applaudissements)</i>[GZ]</p>\n<p>[VS][GZ]</p>\n<p>[VS][GZ]</p>\n<p>[VS][GZ]</p>\n<p><i>Schluss der Sitzung um 12.50 Uhr </i>[GZ]</p>\n<p><i>La s\u00e9ance est lev\u00e9e \u00e0 12 h 50</i></p>\n<p><i>[PAGE 501] </i></p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20180315","MeetingVerbalixOid":2993,"IdSession":"5012","SpeakerFirstName":"Dominique","SpeakerLastName":"de Buman","SpeakerFullName":"de Buman Dominique","SpeakerFunction":"P-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Nationalrat","CantonId":10,"CantonName":"Freiburg","CantonAbbreviation":"FR","ParlGroupName":"CVP-Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"M-E","SortOrder":6,"Start":"\/Date(1521117410607)\/","End":"\/Date(1521117481982)\/","Function":"P-M","DisplaySpeaker":false,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877274728)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1521117410607+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1521117481983+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228695L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228695L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228695L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228695L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228695L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"228695","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"42928","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":4079,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Je vous remercie pour votre r\u00e9ponse, Madame la conseill\u00e8re f\u00e9d\u00e9rale. N\u00e9anmoins, si l'on met de c\u00f4t\u00e9 la question de savoir s'il faut ou non adopter le postulat, trouvez-vous normal qu'il soit compliqu\u00e9 aujourd'hui pour une entreprise d'engager une personne qualifi\u00e9e qui sort de l'universit\u00e9, qui a des dipl\u00f4mes? Trouvez-vous normal que ce soit un parcours du combattant, voire qu'il soit impossible de le faire dans certains cas parce que les contingents sont \u00e9puis\u00e9s? Ne devrait-on pas, en Suisse, faciliter la d\u00e9marche d'une entreprise qui veut engager quelqu'un de qualifi\u00e9?</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20180315","MeetingVerbalixOid":2993,"IdSession":"5012","SpeakerFirstName":"Fathi","SpeakerLastName":"Derder","SpeakerFullName":"Derder Fathi","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Nationalrat","CantonId":22,"CantonName":"Waadt","CantonAbbreviation":"VD","ParlGroupName":"FDP-Liberale Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"RL","SortOrder":3,"Start":"\/Date(1521117329471)\/","End":"\/Date(1521117361423)\/","Function":"Mit-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877274722)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1521117329470+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1521117361423+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228701L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228701L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228701L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228701L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=228701L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"228701","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"42928","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":4079,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Je pr\u00e9cise que mon intervention sera tr\u00e8s courte, parce que le probl\u00e8me est tr\u00e8s simple. La Suisse conna\u00eet une s\u00e9v\u00e8re p\u00e9nurie de cerveaux. Nous manquons d'ing\u00e9nieurs depuis des ann\u00e9es; nous connaissons tous les chiffres des ann\u00e9es 2000 - il manque 15 000 ing\u00e9nieurs - et ces chiffres croissent.</p>\n<p>En raison de la num\u00e9risation de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9, du d\u00e9veloppement des \"data sciences\", de tout ce qui a trait \u00e0 l'intelligence artificielle, nous avons tr\u00e8s fortement besoin en Suisse de cerveaux; or nous en manquons. Alors il y a deux solutions. La premi\u00e8re, c'est de les former; on a des hautes \u00e9coles qui travaillent \u00e0 cela. La deuxi\u00e8me, bien entendu, c'est la voie migratoire; or aujourd'hui nous n'avons pas de politique migratoire sp\u00e9cifique pour attirer des cerveaux en Suisse.</p>\n<p>Donc, si on r\u00e9sume, le probl\u00e8me est simple: on manque de cerveaux, mais on n'a pas de politique migratoire pour les attirer, donc je demande simplement qu'on corrige le tir et qu'on mette en place une politique qui nous permette de faciliter la remise de visas, notamment \u00e0 des ressortissants de pays tiers. Au Conseil des Etats, r\u00e9cemment, une motion de mon coll\u00e8gue Noser dont le but \u00e9tait le m\u00eame a \u00e9t\u00e9 rejet\u00e9e. Alors [PAGE 500] d'accord, on a laiss\u00e9 tomber la motion; rabattons-nous maintenant sur un postulat, une r\u00e9flexion pour voir quelles sont les mesures qu'on peut mettre en oeuvre aujourd'hui pour attirer davantage de cerveaux.</p>\n<p>L'ann\u00e9e derni\u00e8re, il y avait des titres dans la presse, que j'ai sous les yeux, qui faisaient \u00e9tat de demandes \u00e9manant des autorit\u00e9s vaudoises, genevoises, b\u00e2loises, autorit\u00e9s qui demandaient qu'on leur accorde plus de permis de travail; il y avait les fameux contingents pour les permis L qui posaient des probl\u00e8mes. Donc il ne s'agit pas que de start-up; il s'agit de multinationales, d'entreprises qui aujourd'hui n'arrivent plus \u00e0 embaucher.</p>\n<p>Vous avez cit\u00e9 l'argument, lors du d\u00e9bat au Conseil des Etats sur la motion Noser, qui consistait \u00e0 dire que la population avait donn\u00e9 comme mandat, le 9 f\u00e9vrier 2014, de limiter l'immigration et non pas de l'augmenter. Je ne crois pas, Madame la conseill\u00e8re f\u00e9d\u00e9rale, qu'autoriser l'embauche d'un ou de deux bio-informaticiens pakistanais mettrait en p\u00e9ril notre politique migratoire. Par contre, cela satisferait tr\u00e8s pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment aux besoins de jeunes entreprises ou d'entreprises bien \u00e9tablies dans des domaines d'excellence qui font la force de la Suisse, notamment dans le domaine scientifique.</p>\n<p>Dans l'avis du Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral publi\u00e9 en r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 mon postulat, il \u00e9tait mentionn\u00e9 que vous attendiez qu'on termine les travaux de mise en oeuvre de l'article 121a de la Constitution f\u00e9d\u00e9rale. Le d\u00e9bat parlementaire est clos. Il est maintenant temps de satisfaire aux besoins de notre place scientifique afin de garantir la prosp\u00e9rit\u00e9 suisse et d'\u00e9tudier les solutions pour permettre l'immigration de cerveaux en Suisse.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20180315","MeetingVerbalixOid":2993,"IdSession":"5012","SpeakerFirstName":"Fathi","SpeakerLastName":"Derder","SpeakerFullName":"Derder Fathi","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Nationalrat","CantonId":22,"CantonName":"Waadt","CantonAbbreviation":"VD","ParlGroupName":"FDP-Liberale Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"RL","SortOrder":1,"Start":"\/Date(1521117070487)\/","End":"\/Date(1521117221758)\/","Function":"Mit-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1774877274719)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1521117070487+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1521117221757+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null}]},"ID":"42928","Language":"DE","IdMeeting":"4050","VerbalixOid":562788,"SortOrder":27,"Modified":"\/Date(1774877274717)\/"}}