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Wir von der Minderheit m\u00f6chten dieser L\u00f6sung selbstverst\u00e4ndlich nicht im Wege stehen. Es geht hier nicht mehr darum, den Prozess noch zu beschleunigen. Es sind nicht alle Mitglieder der Minderheit begeistert \u00fcber diese 60/40-L\u00f6sung, aber sie bietet eine Variante, durch die wir mit dem St\u00e4nderat noch in dieser Session eine L\u00f6sung finden k\u00f6nnten. </p>\n<p>In diesem Sinne k\u00f6nnen wir uns diese Diskussion sparen. Frau Pr\u00e4sidentin, ich ziehe meinen Minderheitsantrag zur\u00fcck.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20200604","MeetingVerbalixOid":3270,"IdSession":"5104","SpeakerFirstName":"C\u00e9dric","SpeakerLastName":"Wermuth","SpeakerFullName":"Wermuth C\u00e9dric","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Nationalrat","CantonId":19,"CantonName":"Aargau","CantonAbbreviation":"AG","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":4,"Start":"\/Date(1591271949651)\/","End":"\/Date(1591271991779)\/","Function":"Mit-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1774877115447)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1591271949650+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1591271991780+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261940L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261940L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261940L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261940L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261940L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"261940","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"49033","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":4053,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Wir sind bei der Motion WAK-N 20.3142, \"Miete im Gastgewerbe. Die Mieter sollen nur 30 Prozent der Miete schulden\". Diese Motion wurde urspr\u00fcnglich vom Nationalrat mit 103 zu 77 Stimmen bei 15 Enthaltungen angenommen. Der St\u00e4nderat hat die Motion dann sehr stark abge\u00e4ndert und eigentlich unter gleichbleibendem Titel seine alte Motion in die Motion des Nationalrates hineingepackt. </p>\n<p>In der Kommission haben wir hierzu nur eine sehr kurze Debatte gef\u00fchrt. Wir haben n\u00e4mlich zuerst dar\u00fcber entschieden, ob die Kommission eine neue Motion verabschieden will - n\u00e4mlich diejenige, die Sie eben angenommen haben - und ob man die vorliegende Motion entsprechend zuerst behandeln m\u00f6chte. Es wurde hierzu ein Ordnungsantrag gestellt. Dieser Ordnungsantrag wurde angenommen, und entsprechend haben wir zuerst \u00fcber die vorliegende Motion abgestimmt. Mit 15 zu 9 Stimmen hat sich die Kommission dagegen ausgesprochen. Eine inhaltliche Debatte \u00fcber die modifizierte Motion, also dar\u00fcber, was der St\u00e4nderat in die Motion eingef\u00fcgt hat, fand in der Kommission nicht statt. </p>\n<p>Entsprechend bitte ich Sie im Namen der Kommission, die vorliegende Motion abzulehnen. </p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"N","MeetingDate":"20200604","MeetingVerbalixOid":3270,"IdSession":"5104","SpeakerFirstName":"Thomas","SpeakerLastName":"Aeschi","SpeakerFullName":"Aeschi Thomas","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":1,"CouncilName":"Nationalrat","CantonId":9,"CantonName":"Zug","CantonAbbreviation":"ZG","ParlGroupName":"Fraktion der Schweizerischen Volkspartei","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"V","SortOrder":2,"Start":"\/Date(1591271612085)\/","End":"\/Date(1591271708655)\/","Function":"*","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1774877115443)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1591271612087+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1591271708657+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261941L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261941L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261941L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261941L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=261941L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"261941","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"49033","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":4077,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Je d\u00e9clare mes liens d'int\u00e9r\u00eats: je suis le directeur de la Chambre vaudoise immobili\u00e8re et le secr\u00e9taire g\u00e9n\u00e9ral de la F\u00e9d\u00e9ration romande immobili\u00e8re.</p>\n<p>La Commission de l'\u00e9conomie et des redevances a examin\u00e9 la motion qui nous est soumise lors de sa s\u00e9ance du 12 mai dernier. Cette motion charge le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral de prendre des mesures pour que les locataires commerciaux dont le loyer brut ne d\u00e9passe pas 8000 francs par mois b\u00e9n\u00e9ficient d'une r\u00e9duction de 5000 francs de leur loyer pendant une p\u00e9riode de deux mois, pour autant qu'ils aient \u00e9t\u00e9 touch\u00e9s par les mesures prises par le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral pour combattre la propagation du coronavirus. </p>\n<p>Par 15 voix contre 9 et 1 abstention, la Commission de l'\u00e9conomie et des redevances vous propose de rejeter la motion. </p>\n<p>La minorit\u00e9 Wermuth vous invite \u00e0 accepter la motion. En effet, la minorit\u00e9 Wermuth consid\u00e8re que toute une s\u00e9rie de locataires commerciaux ont \u00e9t\u00e9 mis en difficult\u00e9 par la situation de crise sanitaire et \u00e9conomique que nous avons connue et que nous connaissons encore, et qu'il s'agit donc d'offrir un certain nombre d'options au Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral pour r\u00e9gler, au niveau f\u00e9d\u00e9ral, la question des loyers commerciaux. L'option pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e dans la motion de la commission du Conseil national modifi\u00e9e par le Conseil des Etats doit \u00e9galement \u00eatre prise en compte dans le processus l\u00e9gislatif engag\u00e9. </p>\n<p>La majorit\u00e9 de la commission vous recommande de rejeter la motion, pour un motif principal. La motion aurait pour cons\u00e9quence que, dans un certain nombre de cas, aucun loyer ne serait d\u00fb. Cela veut dire que, dans un certain nombre de cas, pendant deux mois, 0 franc serait d\u00fb. Cela pose un probl\u00e8me dans la mesure o\u00f9 le locataire commercial, m\u00eame pendant la p\u00e9riode de fermeture de son entreprise ou de son restaurant, a eu acc\u00e8s \u00e0 ses locaux, il y a d'ailleurs laiss\u00e9 un certain nombre de meubles, des \u00e9quipements. Un certain nombre de locataires ont m\u00eame profit\u00e9 intelligemment de cette p\u00e9riode pour rafra\u00eechir les locaux occup\u00e9s. Un certain nombre de restaurants ont des frigidaires o\u00f9 de la nourriture non p\u00e9rissable a \u00e9t\u00e9 laiss\u00e9e. Bref, les locataires ont eu acc\u00e8s \u00e0 leurs locaux pendant la p\u00e9riode de crise. Leur permettre de payer 0 franc de loyer serait vraisemblablement in\u00e9quitable.</p>\n<p>D'ailleurs, le Tribunal f\u00e9d\u00e9ral devra trancher cette question un jour: est-ce qu'un loyer est d\u00fb ou non?</p>\n<p>Comme l'a rappel\u00e9 tout \u00e0 l'heure M. le conseiller f\u00e9d\u00e9ral Parmelin, il y a beaucoup d'avis de droit qui circulent. Il y a un avis de droit qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 command\u00e9 par l'Asloca et qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9dig\u00e9 notamment par une avocate qui est membre du comit\u00e9 central de l'Asloca Suisse, Mme Sarah Brutschin; cet avis de droit consid\u00e8re que la situation de crise que nous avons v\u00e9cue constitue un d\u00e9faut de la chose lou\u00e9e. Mais il y a beaucoup d'autres avis de droit, notamment de professeurs, comme le professeur Bohnet de l'Universit\u00e9 de Neuch\u00e2tel qui consid\u00e8re que les mesures prises par le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral ne constituent pas un d\u00e9faut de la chose lou\u00e9e et que [PAGE 669] par ailleurs la th\u00e9orie de l'impr\u00e9vision, la fameuse \"clausula rebus sic stantibus\", n'est pas applicable. Donc aujourd'hui, dans la plupart des avis de droit, on consid\u00e8re que le droit du bail tel qu'il existe aujourd'hui ne permet pas aux locataires de b\u00e9n\u00e9ficier d'une r\u00e9duction de loyer. 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