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Je m'exprimerai sur quelques articles.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Christiane","SpeakerLastName":"Brunner","SpeakerFullName":"Brunner Christiane","SpeakerFunction":"","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":25,"CantonName":"Genf","CantonAbbreviation":"GE","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":2,"Start":"\/Date(1038842263613)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842303003)\/","Function":"*","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1510849421850)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842263613+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842303003+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29750L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29750L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29750L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29750L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29750L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"29750","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5283","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":168,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p><b>Art. 7 Abs. 2 Bst. b</b></p>\n<p><i>Antrag der Kommission</i></p>\n<p>Zustimmung zum Beschluss des Nationalrates</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 7 al. 2 let. b</b></p>\n<p><i>Proposition de la commission</i></p>\n<p>Adh\u00e9rer \u00e0 la d\u00e9cision du Conseil national</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><i>Angenommen - Adopt\u00e9</i></p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 34 Abs. 2</b></p>\n<p><i>Antrag der Kommission</i></p>\n<p>Zustimmung zum Beschluss des Nationalrates</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 34 al. 2</b></p>\n<p><i>Proposition de la commission</i></p>\n<p>Adh\u00e9rer \u00e0 la d\u00e9cision du Conseil national</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Gian-Reto","SpeakerLastName":"Plattner","SpeakerFullName":"Plattner Gian-Reto","SpeakerFunction":"P-M","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":12,"CantonName":"Basel-Stadt","CantonAbbreviation":"BS","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":3,"Start":"\/Date(1038842303003)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842318380)\/","Function":"","DisplaySpeaker":false,"LanguageOfText":null,"Modified":"\/Date(1510849421850)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842303003+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842318380+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29751L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29751L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29751L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29751L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29751L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"29751","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5283","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":30,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Nous vous proposons de suivre le Conseil national sur ce point. 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Adopt\u00e9</i></p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 43 Abs. 1</b></p>\n<p><i>Antrag der Kommission</i></p>\n<p>Zustimmung zum Beschluss des Nationalrates</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 43 al. 1</b></p>\n<p><i>Proposition de la commission</i></p>\n<p>Adh\u00e9rer \u00e0 la d\u00e9cision du Conseil national</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Gian-Reto","SpeakerLastName":"Plattner","SpeakerFullName":"Plattner Gian-Reto","SpeakerFunction":"P-M","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":12,"CantonName":"Basel-Stadt","CantonAbbreviation":"BS","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":5,"Start":"\/Date(1038842342660)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842349770)\/","Function":"","DisplaySpeaker":false,"LanguageOfText":null,"Modified":"\/Date(1510849421850)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842342660+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842349770+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29753L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29753L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29753L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29753L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29753L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"29753","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5283","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":30,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Notre Conseil avait \u00e9t\u00e9 plus g\u00e9n\u00e9reux que le Conseil national en pr\u00e9voyant que le sursis pouvait \u00eatre prononc\u00e9 jusqu'\u00e0 une peine privative de libert\u00e9 d'une dur\u00e9e de trois ans.</p>\n<p>Nous vous proposons cependant de nous rallier au Conseil national, tenant compte du fait que nous avons introduit le sursis partiel qui permet de faire preuve d'une plus grande souplesse et de personnaliser au mieux les peines.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Christiane","SpeakerLastName":"Brunner","SpeakerFullName":"Brunner Christiane","SpeakerFunction":"","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":25,"CantonName":"Genf","CantonAbbreviation":"GE","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":6,"Start":"\/Date(1038842349770)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842379363)\/","Function":"*","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1510849421850)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842349770+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842379363+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29754L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29754L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29754L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29754L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29754L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"29754","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5283","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":168,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p><i>Angenommen - Adopt\u00e9</i></p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 56 Abs. 3bis</b></p>\n<p><i>Antrag der Kommission</i></p>\n<p>Zustimmung zum Beschluss des Nationalrates</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 56 al. 3bis</b></p>\n<p><i>Proposition de la commission</i></p>\n<p>Adh\u00e9rer \u00e0 la d\u00e9cision du Conseil national</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Gian-Reto","SpeakerLastName":"Plattner","SpeakerFullName":"Plattner Gian-Reto","SpeakerFunction":"P-M","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":12,"CantonName":"Basel-Stadt","CantonAbbreviation":"BS","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":7,"Start":"\/Date(1038842379363)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842391583)\/","Function":"","DisplaySpeaker":false,"LanguageOfText":null,"Modified":"\/Date(1510849421863)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842379363+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842391583+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29755L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29755L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29755L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29755L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29755L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"29755","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5283","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":30,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Le Conseil national pr\u00e9conise ici toute une s\u00e9rie de mesures pour servir de contre-projet indirect \u00e0 l'initiative populaire \"Internement \u00e0 vie pour les d\u00e9linquants sexuels ou violents jug\u00e9s tr\u00e8s dangereux et non amendables\".</p>\n<p>Tout d'abord, il propose l'introduction d'une expertise ind\u00e9pendante pour ordonner une mesure, ceci \u00e0 l'article 56 alin\u00e9a 3bis. Ensuite, il propose la prolongation possible du d\u00e9lai d'\u00e9preuve \u00e0 l'article 62 alin\u00e9a 4 et 64a alin\u00e9a 1bis et encore \u00e0 l'article 87 alin\u00e9a 3. Les mesures d'accompagnement, donc normalement pr\u00e9vues pendant le d\u00e9lai d'\u00e9preuve, peuvent donc durer m\u00eame toute la vie si cela s'av\u00e8re n\u00e9cessaire.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Christiane","SpeakerLastName":"Brunner","SpeakerFullName":"Brunner Christiane","SpeakerFunction":"","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":25,"CantonName":"Genf","CantonAbbreviation":"GE","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":8,"Start":"\/Date(1038842391583)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842450567)\/","Function":"*","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1510849421863)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842391583+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842450567+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29756L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29756L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29756L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29756L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29756L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"29756","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5283","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":168,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p><i>Angenommen - Adopt\u00e9</i></p>\n<p>[VS] [PAGE 1061] </p>\n<p><b>Art. 59 Abs. 1; 60 Titel, Abs. 1</b></p>\n<p><i>Antrag der Kommission</i></p>\n<p>Zustimmung zum Beschluss des Nationalrates</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 59 al. 1; 60 titre, al. 1</b></p>\n<p><i>Proposition de la commission</i></p>\n<p>Adh\u00e9rer \u00e0 la d\u00e9cision du Conseil national</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Gian-Reto","SpeakerLastName":"Plattner","SpeakerFullName":"Plattner Gian-Reto","SpeakerFunction":"P-M","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":12,"CantonName":"Basel-Stadt","CantonAbbreviation":"BS","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":9,"Start":"\/Date(1038842450567)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842458880)\/","Function":"","DisplaySpeaker":false,"LanguageOfText":null,"Modified":"\/Date(1510849421863)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842450567+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842458880+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29757L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29757L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29757L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29757L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29757L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"29757","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5283","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":30,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>En ce qui concerne l'article 59 alin\u00e9a 1er ainsi que l'article 60 alin\u00e9a 1er, la plaidoirie de M. Merz n'a pas convaincu nos coll\u00e8gues du Conseil national. Nous proposons cependant de nous rallier au Conseil national, car nous n'avons aucune divergence quant au fond mais seulement quant \u00e0 la forme. Il en va donc de m\u00eame \u00e0 l'article 60 alin\u00e9a 1er, o\u00f9 la divergence est d'ordre purement r\u00e9dactionnel.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Christiane","SpeakerLastName":"Brunner","SpeakerFullName":"Brunner Christiane","SpeakerFunction":"","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":25,"CantonName":"Genf","CantonAbbreviation":"GE","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":10,"Start":"\/Date(1038842458880)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842494567)\/","Function":"*","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1510849421863)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842458880+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842494567+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29758L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29758L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29758L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29758L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29758L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"29758","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5283","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":398,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Ich habe letzte Woche im Zusammenhang mit einem Traktandum gesagt, dass ich eigentlich nichts Materielles, sondern einfach einen Ukas loswerden m\u00f6chte. Ich wiederhole das jetzt an dieser Stelle: einen Ukas. Ich sehe, dass sich die Kommission dem Nationalrat anschliesst. Ich danke der Kommissionspr\u00e4sidentin daf\u00fcr, dass sie \u00fcber die Runden, die bis jetzt stattgefunden haben, durchgehalten hat. </p>\n<p>Aber ich m\u00f6chte doch meinem Missbehagen Ausdruck geben, dass man die Stimmen der Fachleute, die gerade bei der \u00c4nderung des Strafgesetzbuches wichtig sind, zum Teil nicht richtig geh\u00f6rt hat. Ich war 1999, als wir in Genf Anh\u00f6rungen hatten, noch Mitglied der Kommission f\u00fcr Rechtsfragen. Wir h\u00f6rten damals unter anderen einen Psychiater an, der sich im Namen der Gesellschaft der Psychiater zu diesem Thema \u00e4usserte. Er sagte ganz klar - ich zitiere hier das Protokoll -: \"'Ist der T\u00e4ter psychisch schwer gest\u00f6rt' - das ist die Formulierung, die Sie jetzt vorschlagen - ist kein akzeptables diagnostisches Tatbestandselement.\" Unter Verwendung eines einheitlichen diagnostischen Tatbestandes m\u00fcsste Artikel 59 Absatz 1 lauten: \"Besteht beim T\u00e4ter eine psychische St\u00f6rung von erheblicher Schwere, so kann das Gericht ....\" Ich setzte mich im Nachhinein mit der Gesellschaft der Psychiater noch einmal in Verbindung. Sie sagten, es gebe heute internationale Standards, mit denen man kommuniziere, die wissenschaftlich abgesichert seien. Es h\u00e4tte gar nichts dagegen gesprochen - zuallerletzt die Vernunft -, wenn man diese Formulierung, die in der medizinischen Wissenschaft abgesichert ist, in dieses Gesetz \u00fcbernommen h\u00e4tte. </p>\n<p>Nun sehe ich, dass es nat\u00fcrlich keinen Sinn macht, hier jetzt festzuhalten und eine Einigungskonferenz zu suchen. Deshalb wollte ich einfach zuhanden des Amtlichen Bulletins noch einmal gesagt haben, dass f\u00fcr mich, wenn sich irgendwann einmal die Frage der Auslegung stellt, die Meinung der Psychiater in solchen F\u00e4llen wichtiger w\u00e4re als dieser redaktionelle Gesetzestext. </p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Hans-Rudolf","SpeakerLastName":"Merz","SpeakerFullName":"Merz Hans-Rudolf","SpeakerFunction":"","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":15,"CantonName":"Appenzell A.-Rh.","CantonAbbreviation":"AR","ParlGroupName":"Freisinnig-demokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"RL","SortOrder":11,"Start":"\/Date(1038842499410)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842646743)\/","Function":"","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1510849421863)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842499410+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842646743+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29759L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29759L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29759L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29759L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=29759L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"29759","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5283","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":168,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p><i>Angenommen - Adopt\u00e9</i></p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 62 Abs. 4; 63 Abs. 1; 64 Abs. 2, 2bis; 64a Titel, Abs. 1bis; 64b Abs. 2</b></p>\n<p><i>Antrag der Kommission</i></p>\n<p>Zustimmung zum Beschluss des Nationalrates</p>\n<p>[VS]</p>\n<p><b>Art. 62 al. 4; 63 al. 1; 64 al. 2, 2bis; 64a titre, al. 1bis; 64b al. 2</b></p>\n<p><i>Proposition de la commission</i></p>\n<p>Adh\u00e9rer \u00e0 la d\u00e9cision du Conseil national</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021202","MeetingVerbalixOid":1009,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Gian-Reto","SpeakerLastName":"Plattner","SpeakerFullName":"Plattner Gian-Reto","SpeakerFunction":"P-M","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":12,"CantonName":"Basel-Stadt","CantonAbbreviation":"BS","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":12,"Start":"\/Date(1038842646743)\/","End":"\/Date(1038842684683)\/","Function":"","DisplaySpeaker":false,"LanguageOfText":null,"Modified":"\/Date(1510849421863)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842646743+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1038842684683+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null}]},"ID":"5283","Language":"DE","IdMeeting":"372","VerbalixOid":70909,"SortOrder":2,"Modified":"\/Date(1510849421850)\/"}}