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Pour ma part en tout cas, je crois qu'il y a des moyens pour reconna\u00eetre rapidement des bourdes m\u00e9diatiques. Par exemple, dans le cas pr\u00e9sent, si la \"NZZ\" avait pris le soin de v\u00e9rifier son information aupr\u00e8s de notre d\u00e9partement, on aurait tr\u00e8s rapidement pu l'aider \u00e0 ne pas publier ou r\u00e9pandre cette fausse nouvelle. Donc l'affaire a \u00e9t\u00e9 imm\u00e9diatement saisie par la Commission de gestion, le jour m\u00eame. Et la Commission de gestion, dans son communiqu\u00e9 de presse du 18 novembre 2002, a pr\u00e9cis\u00e9 que le DFAE avait trouv\u00e9 ces d\u00e9p\u00eaches tr\u00e8s rapidement et les lui avait transmises int\u00e9gralement. La Commission de gestion a pu constater que ces 23 d\u00e9p\u00eaches avaient \u00e9t\u00e9 correctement archiv\u00e9es au DFAE et que le soup\u00e7on de soustraction de documents \u00e9tait sans fondement.</p>\n<p>Ceci ne nous emp\u00eache pas de nous inqui\u00e9ter de la m\u00e9thode et des moyens que nous avons pour archiver les documents n\u00e9cessaires pour pouvoir reconstituer le travail du d\u00e9partement et du Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral. Nous estimons que les moyens mis en place - il y a cinq services d'enregistrement \u00e0 la centrale, sans compter la DDC, et un programme informatique qui permet de savoir en tout temps o\u00f9 est d\u00e9pos\u00e9 un document - sont suffisants pour faire face aux besoins d'archivage qui \u00e9taient en cause dans cette publication de la presse.</p>\n<p>D'autre part, toute la gestion des dossiers se fait en \u00e9troite collaboration avec les Archives f\u00e9d\u00e9rales et tous les documents sont d\u00e9pos\u00e9s, ou alors d\u00e9truits le cas \u00e9ch\u00e9ant, toujours avec l'autorisation des Archives f\u00e9d\u00e9rales. Il y a d'ailleurs une v\u00e9rification p\u00e9riodique qui se fait par les Archives f\u00e9d\u00e9rales pour \u00eatre au fait de la pratique et le DFAE a \u00e9t\u00e9 contr\u00f4l\u00e9 pour la derni\u00e8re fois le 11 avril 2000.</p>\n<p>Qu'en est-il du traitement, car il ne s'agit pas seulement d'acheminer les d\u00e9p\u00eaches, ou de les classer, il s'agit encore d'en tirer les \u00e9l\u00e9ments n\u00e9cessaires? Je crois que la r\u00e9organisation des services \u00e0 Berne, notamment la cr\u00e9ation de quatre Divisions politiques au lieu de deux comme jusqu'\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent, a d\u00e9j\u00e0 am\u00e9lior\u00e9 le potentiel d'analyse. Il faut savoir aussi que la plupart des d\u00e9p\u00eaches qui sont adress\u00e9es \u00e0 la centrale par nos missions ext\u00e9rieures - cela d\u00e9pend \u00e9videmment du degr\u00e9 de confidentialit\u00e9 des documents - ne sont pas adress\u00e9es \u00e0 un seul service, elles sont adress\u00e9es \u00e0 divers services selon l'int\u00e9r\u00eat que peut repr\u00e9senter le document. Et \u00e7a ne se limite pas au D\u00e9partement f\u00e9d\u00e9ral des affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res. Beaucoup de documents sont non seulement d'un int\u00e9r\u00eat pour le DFAE, mais aussi pour le D\u00e9partement f\u00e9d\u00e9ral de l'\u00e9conomie ou d'autres d\u00e9partements qui sont concern\u00e9s par nos relations \u00e0 l'ext\u00e9rieur. Je crois que la diffusion de l'information est suffisante.</p>\n<p>L'analyse incombe en priorit\u00e9 au responsable charg\u00e9 du pays en question, qui doit prendre des contacts n\u00e9cessaires avec les autres services selon les dossiers. Il ne s'agit d'ailleurs pas seulement des crises \u00e0 g\u00e9rer. Je crois qu'il est important que toutes les informations simplement utiles \u00e0 un titre ou \u00e0 un autre soient exploit\u00e9es et utilis\u00e9es.</p>\n<p>Je peux vous donner un exemple d'actualit\u00e9 courante, qui concerne l'Afrique du Sud. Cela fait plusieurs ann\u00e9es qu'une coordination interd\u00e9partementale de l'information concernant l'Afrique du Sud fonctionne; cela d\u00e9montre que nous avons sans doute tir\u00e9 certaines le\u00e7ons du pass\u00e9 et que nous ne voulons plus \u00eatre surpris, m\u00eame s'il n'est pas possible d'exclure totalement tout effet d'impr\u00e9vu.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021209","MeetingVerbalixOid":1013,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Joseph","SpeakerLastName":"Deiss","SpeakerFullName":"Deiss Joseph","SpeakerFunction":"BR-M","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Bundesrat","CantonId":10,"CantonName":"Freiburg","CantonAbbreviation":"FR","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":5,"Start":"\/Date(1039449952353)\/","End":"\/Date(1039450258493)\/","Function":"","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1510849424223)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1039449952353+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1039450258493+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30079L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30079L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30079L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30079L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30079L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"30079","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5311","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":12,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Ich bin sehr froh, in der schriftlichen Antwort zu lesen, dass es keinerlei Probleme bei der Archivierung gibt und dass offensichtlich s\u00e4mtliche fraglichen Dokumente ordentlich abgelegt sind und wieder aufgefunden werden k\u00f6nnen. Ich bin hier offensichtlich einer Zeitungsente aufgesessen, die dieses Mal aber auf einem sehr prominenten Wasser geschwommen ist.</p>\n<p>Trotzdem habe ich eine kleine Bemerkung zur Antwort anzubringen, namentlich zum letzten Satz, der vielleicht nicht ganz so aussagekr\u00e4ftig ist: Ich w\u00e4re in der Tat selber darauf gekommen, dass es keine organisatorischen Massnahmen gibt, welche die Verhinderung von Krisen garantieren k\u00f6nnen. Die Frage bezog sich auch nicht auf solche Massnahmen, ich h\u00e4tte vielmehr gerne erfragt, ob es Massnahmen gibt, die getroffen werden k\u00f6nnen, damit Krisen fr\u00fcher erkannt werden k\u00f6nnen. Es gibt doch sicher Massnahmen, die der Eruierung von Gefahrenherden dienen k\u00f6nnen. Solche Massnahmen h\u00e4tten allenfalls doch nach den Vorkommnissen bez\u00fcglich der nachrichtenlosen Verm\u00f6gen verbessert werden k\u00f6nnen. Ich w\u00e4re dankbar, wenn Herr Bundesrat Deiss dazu noch einige Angaben machen k\u00f6nnte. K\u00f6nnten Sie mir namentlich sagen, was mit eingehenden Gefahrenmeldungen passiert? Wie und wo erfolgt die Triage? Wie werden diese Gefahrenmeldungen an andere Dienststellen und allenfalls auch an andere Departemente weitergeleitet? Besteht hier namentlich - das w\u00fcrde mir wichtig erscheinen - eine interdepartementale Zusammenarbeit? Wie ist es mit der Koordination, wie ist sie geregelt? Ist sie optimal geregelt? K\u00f6nnen wir davon ausgehen, dass Gefahrenmeldungen, die in einem Departement eingehen, schlussendlich auch in andere Departemente gelangen und dort in ordentlicher und angemessener Weise behandelt werden?</p>\n<p>[PAGE 1160] </p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20021209","MeetingVerbalixOid":1013,"IdSession":"4616","SpeakerFirstName":"Christine","SpeakerLastName":"Beerli","SpeakerFullName":"Beerli Christine","SpeakerFunction":"","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":2,"CantonName":"Bern","CantonAbbreviation":"BE","ParlGroupName":"Freisinnig-demokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"RL","SortOrder":4,"Start":"\/Date(1039449831697)\/","End":"\/Date(1039449952353)\/","Function":"","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1510849424207)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1039449831697+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1039449952353+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30080L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30080L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30080L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30080L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=30080L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"30080","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"5311","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":null,"Type":3,"Text":"<pd_text><p><b>Pr\u00e4sident</b> (Plattner Gian-Reto, Pr\u00e4sident): Frau Beerli beantragt Diskussion. - 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