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Der Bundesrat sieht das grosse Potenzial bei den virtuellen Kraftwerken mit Notstromgruppen. In der Schweiz stehen etwa 6000 Notstromgruppen mit einer Gesamtleistung von 3 bis 4 Gigawatt zur Verf\u00fcgung. Diese Ressourcen sind bereits installiert, dezentral und sehr oft an Orten, wo sie die Bev\u00f6lkerung nicht st\u00f6ren. Der Bundesrat hat deshalb bereits ein virtuelles Kraftwerk f\u00fcr den Winter 2022/23 eingerichtet und setzt alles daran, das Ziel von 280 Megawatt ab dem kommenden Winter 2023/24 zu erreichen. Das bedeutet, dass wir die Leistung gegen\u00fcber heute mehr als verdoppeln m\u00fcssen.</p>\n<p>Der Bundesrat hat verschiedene Punkte identifiziert, welche die Einf\u00fchrung von virtuellen Kraftwerken bremsen k\u00f6nnten. Ich nenne hier die Treibstoffversorgung. Es ist eine Herausforderung, dass sie gen\u00fcgt, damit die Notstromaggregate dauerhaft in die Reserve eingebunden werden k\u00f6nnen. Wo auch immer Sie Einfluss nehmen k\u00f6nnen, bitte ich Sie, darauf hinzuweisen, dass es wichtig ist, dass die Treibstofflager in diesem Sommer gef\u00fcllt werden. Der Super-GAU w\u00e4re, dass wir zwar Notstromaggregate h\u00e4tten, aber zu wenig Treibstoff. Es ist ganz wichtig, und wenn ich das hier \u00f6ffentlich tun kann, so mache ich einen Aufruf an die Betreiber, in einer Zeit, in der keine Knappheit herrscht, die Tanks zu f\u00fcllen, damit diese Aggregate dann auch laufen w\u00fcrden. Ich glaube, das ist sehr wichtig. Denn wir sind f\u00fcr den kommenden Winter nicht auf [PAGE 599] der sicheren Seite. Wir gehen davon aus, dass der Strom mit den Reservekraftwerken ausreicht, aber wir m\u00fcssen sicher sein, dass diese auch laufen k\u00f6nnen.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20230613","MeetingVerbalixOid":3721,"IdSession":"5121","SpeakerFirstName":"Albert","SpeakerLastName":"R\u00f6sti","SpeakerFullName":"R\u00f6sti Albert","SpeakerFunction":"BR-M","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Bundesrat","CantonId":2,"CantonName":"Bern","CantonAbbreviation":"BE","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":3,"Start":"\/Date(1686659338043)\/","End":"\/Date(1686659449733)\/","Function":"BR-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1765889161073)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1686659338043+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1686659449733+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=322810L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=322810L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=322810L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=322810L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=322810L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"322810","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"61140","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":4187,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>J'ai effectivement souhait\u00e9 une discussion pour vous remercier Monsieur le conseiller f\u00e9d\u00e9ral de votre r\u00e9ponse. Le concept de centrale \u00e9lectrique virtuelle de r\u00e9serve vise \u00e0 consid\u00e9rer que les groupes \u00e9lectrog\u00e8nes importants des entreprises qui participent au \"pool\" soient consid\u00e9r\u00e9s comme une seule centrale \u00e9lectrique. Ce \"pool\" pourra \u00eatre activ\u00e9, totalement ou en partie, en cas de p\u00e9nurie d'\u00e9lectricit\u00e9. Le concept vise donc \u00e0 renforcer la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 de notre approvisionnement en \u00e9lectricit\u00e9.</p>\n<p>Comme je l'ai dit, je remercie le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral d'avoir approuv\u00e9 le concept dans son avis, que j'ai trouv\u00e9 tr\u00e8s d\u00e9taill\u00e9. L'approche est, \u00e0 mon sens, essentielle, puisqu'elle permet d'assurer la mise en service d'une nouvelle centrale \u00e9lectrique par l'addition de plusieurs petites, et surtout en \u00e9vitant d'acheter d'autres installations ou en \u00e9vitant de construire des installations comme celle de Birr.</p>\n<p>Je salue donc les propositions du Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral lorsqu'il explique qu'il veut aujourd'hui \u00e9liminer les derniers obstacles \u00e9ventuels pour ainsi lutter, dans une moindre mesure, contre le risque de \"black-out\" qui nous guette. J'attends d\u00e8s lors avec beaucoup d'int\u00e9r\u00eat la suite qui sera donn\u00e9e \u00e0 cette proposition.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20230613","MeetingVerbalixOid":3721,"IdSession":"5121","SpeakerFirstName":"Philippe","SpeakerLastName":"Bauer","SpeakerFullName":"Bauer Philippe","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-M","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":24,"CantonName":"Neuenburg","CantonAbbreviation":"NE","ParlGroupName":"FDP-Liberale Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"RL","SortOrder":2,"Start":"\/Date(1686659240170)\/","End":"\/Date(1686659330820)\/","Function":"Mit-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1765889161073)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1686659240170+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1686659330820+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null}]},"ID":"61140","Language":"DE","IdMeeting":"4778","VerbalixOid":718844,"SortOrder":14,"Modified":"\/Date(1765889161057)\/"}}