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Aujourd'hui, la situation est claire, le Conseil national a \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s clair, et la situation financi\u00e8re de la Conf\u00e9d\u00e9ration a incit\u00e9 le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral \u00e0 \u00eatre assez strict en la mati\u00e8re.</p>\n<p>Je vous invite \u00e0 suivre le Conseil national et le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral de fa\u00e7on \u00e0 \u00e9liminer cette divergence. Les moyens attribu\u00e9s sont importants, et la situation s'est am\u00e9lior\u00e9e depuis le COVID-19. Il ne faut pas oublier que le programme de relance est en cours. Tous ces \u00e9l\u00e9ments ont conduit le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral et le Conseil national \u00e0 vous proposer ces 233 millions de francs.</p>\n<p>Je vous invite \u00e0 vous y rallier.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20230918","MeetingVerbalixOid":3750,"IdSession":"5122","SpeakerFirstName":"Guy","SpeakerLastName":"Parmelin","SpeakerFullName":"Parmelin Guy","SpeakerFunction":"BR-M","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Bundesrat","CantonId":22,"CantonName":"Waadt","CantonAbbreviation":"VD","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":3,"Start":"\/Date(1695051126813)\/","End":"\/Date(1695051187750)\/","Function":"BR-M","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1742463516670)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1695051126813+0120)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1695051187750+0120)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=325518L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=325518L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=325518L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=325518L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=325518L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"325518","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"61681","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":4152,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Ich kann Ihnen sagen, dass ich mich hier als Kommissionssprecher wie der Geigenspieler auf der \"Titanic\" f\u00fchle: Ich spiele und spiele und spiele, und ich sehe das Ende auf mich zukommen.</p>\n<p>Nachdem unser Rat in der Sommersession zwei richtige und wichtige Differenzen zum Bundesratsentwurf geschaffen hatte, beriet letzte Woche der Nationalrat das Gesch\u00e4ft und beschloss, unserem weisen Ratschlag eben nicht zu folgen. Die beiden Bundesbeschl\u00fcsse wurden dann von der WAK-S intensiv vorberaten. Dabei konnte der Bundesrat aber[NB]auch[NB]aufzeigen - und das hat dann nat\u00fcrlich das Feld ge\u00f6ffnet -, dass mit den tieferen Betr\u00e4gen sowohl Schweiz Tourismus den Auftrag ausf\u00fchren kann als auch der Fonds f\u00fcr Regionalentwicklung im Jahr 2031 immer noch gen\u00fcgend Liquidit\u00e4t haben wird. Somit ist im Lichte der aktuellen Abschlussprognosen des Bundes - das muss ich Ihnen nicht n\u00e4herbringen - eigentlich klar, dass das ein schlagendes Argument war, und auch die Mehrheiten im Nationalrat gaben unserer \"Titanic\"-Band nicht sonderlich Aufwind.</p>\n<p>Ihre Kommission beantragt Ihnen jeweils mit 8 zu 0 Stimmen bei 4 Enthaltungen, sowohl beim Bundesbeschluss 3 bez\u00fcglich der Finanzhilfe an Schweiz Tourismus f\u00fcr die Jahre 2024-2027 als auch beim Bundesbeschluss 5 \u00fcber weitere Einlagen in den Fonds f\u00fcr Regionalentwicklung die bestehenden Differenzen zu den Beschl\u00fcssen des Nationalrates zu eliminieren und somit dem Bundesratsentwurf zu folgen. [PAGE 766] </p>\n<p>Ich werde mich sp\u00e4ter in der Detailberatung nicht mehr \u00e4ussern; ich habe das jetzt bereits gemacht. 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Il y a eu une longue discussion, au Conseil national, sur la question de savoir s'il ne fallait pas aller plus bas pour que, conform\u00e9ment aux remarques du Contr\u00f4le f\u00e9d\u00e9ral des finances, les liquidit\u00e9s du fonds diminuent. Nous avons \u00e9galement pu expliquer \u00e0 la commission que cela allait \u00eatre le cas avec 400 millions de francs d'investissement chaque ann\u00e9e. Avec les apports que le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral veut faire dans ce fonds, il y aura encore, d'ici 2030, suffisamment dans le fonds.</p>\n<p>La version du Conseil national \u00e9tait excessive. Elle pr\u00e9voyait des apports de 150 millions de francs. Nous aurions \u00e9t\u00e9 - passez-moi l'expression - \"knapp\" et il n'aurait pas \u00e9t\u00e9 exclu qu'\u00e0 un moment ou un autre, nous ayons d\u00fb r\u00e9approvisionner le fonds. 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