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Dans le cadre des conventions tarifaires, les rabais des fournisseurs de prestations envers les assureurs peuvent \u00eatre convenus. C'est en particulier le cas de la convention tarifaire sur les prestations pharmaceutiques, qui pr\u00e9voit une contribution \u00e0 l'efficience. Ce rabais repr\u00e9sente donc le gain d'efficience obtenu par le syst\u00e8me du tiers payant.</p>\n<p>Il est \u00e9galement possible de pr\u00e9voir des mod\u00e8les de prix qui concernent les m\u00e9dicaments et avec ce syst\u00e8me, les assureurs re\u00e7oivent des entreprises pharmaceutiques la diff\u00e9rence entre le prix inscrit sur la liste des sp\u00e9cialit\u00e9s et le prix effectivement pay\u00e9. Ces rabais ou restitutions permettent donc d'avoir des factures moins \u00e9lev\u00e9es, ce qui doit \u00eatre report\u00e9 au montant des primes pay\u00e9es par les assur\u00e9s. [PAGE 295] </p>\n<p>En mati\u00e8re de contr\u00f4les, en raison de la complexit\u00e9 du syst\u00e8me mentionn\u00e9, l'Office f\u00e9d\u00e9ral de la sant\u00e9 publique ne peut pas fournir le montant total pr\u00e9cis de ces rabais et restitutions. Il consid\u00e8re \u00e0 ce jour qu'il n'y a pas d'indice qui montre que les assureurs utiliseraient les montants \u00e0 d'autres fins que celle d'une diminution des primes.</p>\n<p>On peut encore ajouter que les assureurs sont soumis \u00e0 des r\u00e8gles strictes concernant la comptabilisation de ces montants. L'OFSP, de son c\u00f4t\u00e9, contr\u00f4le r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement leur comptabilit\u00e9 et v\u00e9rifie aussi, sur la base d'\u00e9chantillons, que la participation aux co\u00fbts exig\u00e9s est assur\u00e9e et calcul\u00e9e correctement. La transparence, \u00e0 nos yeux, est donc assur\u00e9e. N\u00e9anmoins, le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral est pr\u00eat \u00e0 mener une enqu\u00eate aupr\u00e8s des assureurs afin d'avoir cette vue d'ensemble qui est souhait\u00e9e, une vue d'ensemble plus pr\u00e9cise, et de r\u00e9pondre ainsi aux pr\u00e9occupations soulev\u00e9es.</p>\n<p>C'est donc dans cette optique que je vous invite \u00e0 adopter la motion et \u00e0 suivre votre commission.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20250319","MeetingVerbalixOid":3996,"IdSession":"5207","SpeakerFirstName":"Elisabeth","SpeakerLastName":"Baume-Schneider","SpeakerFullName":"Baume-Schneider Elisabeth","SpeakerFunction":"BR-F","CouncilId":99,"CouncilName":"Bundesrat","CantonId":26,"CantonName":"Jura","CantonAbbreviation":"JU","ParlGroupName":null,"ParlGroupAbbreviation":null,"SortOrder":3,"Start":"\/Date(1742376818777)\/","End":"\/Date(1742376922622)\/","Function":"BR-F","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"FR","Modified":"\/Date(1773138144859)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1742376818777+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1742376922623+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null},{"__metadata":{"id":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=354779L,Language='DE')","uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=354779L,Language='DE')","type":"itsystems.Pd.DataServices.DataModel.Transcript"},"Subjects":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=354779L,Language='DE')/Subjects"}},"MembersCouncil":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=354779L,Language='DE')/MembersCouncil"}},"Businesses":{"__deferred":{"uri":"https://ws.parlament.ch/OData.svc/Transcript(ID=354779L,Language='DE')/Businesses"}},"ID":"354779","Language":"DE","IdSubject":"67505","VoteId":null,"PersonNumber":4224,"Type":1,"Text":"<pd_text><p>Die Motion Bl\u00e4si 24.3060, \"Kontrolle der Finanzen der Krankenkassen in Bezug auf die von verschiedenen Akteuren im Gesundheitswesen erhaltenen Retrozessionen\", wurde am 28.[NB]Februar 2024 im Nationalrat eingereicht und vom Bundesrat zur Annahme empfohlen. Der Nationalrat ist am 14.[NB]Juni 2024 dem Bundesrat gefolgt und hat sie angenommen. </p>\n<p>Ihre Kommission hat die Motion am 25.[NB]Februar 2025 behandelt. Es geht im Wesentlichen darum, dass der Bundesrat bei den Krankenversicherern eine Erhebung zur \u00dcberpr\u00fcfung aller m\u00f6glichen R\u00fcckverg\u00fctungen, Rabatte usw. und ihrer gesetzeskonformen Verwendung durchf\u00fchrt. Es gibt Verg\u00fcnstigungen, die vollumf\u00e4nglich oder reduziert weitergegeben werden m\u00fcssen. Auch beim Wegfall der Notfallpauschale oder bei einer Tarifanpassung mit R\u00fcckwirkung stellen sich Fragen nach der korrekten R\u00fcckabwicklung. Der Gesamtbetrag all dieser Retrozessionen ist der Verwaltung nicht bekannt. Wir haben auch keine Kenntnis davon, ob sie den Versicherten in Form von Pr\u00e4mienreduktionen weitergegeben oder, je nach gesetzlicher M\u00f6glichkeit, teilweise zum Zwecke der Erh\u00f6hung der Qualit\u00e4t einbehalten werden. Der Bundesrat schreibt zwar in seiner Antwort - und das war auch die Meinung in der Kommission -, es gebe keinen Anlass zur Annahme, die Retrozessionen w\u00fcrden nicht korrekt verwendet. Dennoch ist der Wunsch da, Transparenz gegen\u00fcber den Mitgliedern der SGK und auch gegen\u00fcber dem Parlament herzustellen, wie es in der Motion steht.</p>\n<p>Ihre Kommission beantragt mit 9 zu 2 Stimmen bei 1 Enthaltung, die Motion anzunehmen, und ich bitte Sie, der Kommission zu folgen.</p>\n</pd_text>","MeetingCouncilAbbreviation":"S","MeetingDate":"20250319","MeetingVerbalixOid":3996,"IdSession":"5207","SpeakerFirstName":"Flavia","SpeakerLastName":"Wasserfallen","SpeakerFullName":"Wasserfallen Flavia","SpeakerFunction":"Mit-F","CouncilId":2,"CouncilName":"St\u00e4nderat","CantonId":2,"CantonName":"Bern","CantonAbbreviation":"BE","ParlGroupName":"Sozialdemokratische Fraktion","ParlGroupAbbreviation":"S","SortOrder":2,"Start":"\/Date(1742376691262)\/","End":"\/Date(1742376809137)\/","Function":"*","DisplaySpeaker":true,"LanguageOfText":"DE","Modified":"\/Date(1773138144858)\/","StartTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1742376691263+0060)\/","EndTimeWithTimezone":"\/Date(1742376809137+0060)\/","VoteBusinessNumber":null,"VoteBusinessShortNumber":null,"VoteBusinessTitle":null}]},"ID":"67505","Language":"DE","IdMeeting":"5053","VerbalixOid":770570,"SortOrder":4,"Modified":"\/Date(1773138144855)\/"}}